[wiki-standards] Re: proposed wiki markup standard - font

[Filippo A. Salustri]

I agree that Max's paper is quite similar to - tho more fleshed out than - the 
idea I floated.

I had taken Ward's reference to "real space collaboration" to mean that using 
common tools (like a common syntax) is one way to encourage and nurture 
collaboration.

But reading Max's note, I'm not sure anymore.

Cheers.
Fil

Max Völkel wrote:
>> Such a system would be difficult to implement well and requires solving a
>> new set of problems (writing parsers that create wikitax from, say, saved
>> XHTML, instead of just parsing wikitax into XHMTL), but I don't see why it
>> would affect users abilities to share content and collaborate.  You might
>> edit pages in C2 format, but, under Filippo's suggested scheme,  I'd work
>> with the same content in the wikiX format that I favor ... and thanks to the
>> wiki application running on the server, we can still share our documents and
>> participate.   Ward refers to "real space collaboration" being discouraged,
>> though -- I'm not sure what he means with that phrase, though, so I'm not
>> sure if my interpretation of Fil's suggestion has any bearing on that
>> concern.
> 
> A similar approach was suggest in this paper:
> http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/Publikationen/showPublikation?publ_id=1242
> 
> Max Völkel, Eyal Oren: Towards a Wiki Interchange Format (WIF)
> 
> Proceedings of the First Workshop on Semantic Wikis -- From Wiki To
> Semantics. 2006.
> 
> Abstract: Wikis tend to be used more and more in world-wide, intranet
> and increasingly even in personal settings. Current wikis are data
> islands. They are open for everyone to contribute, but closed for
> machines and automation. In this paper we define a wiki interchange
> format (WIF) that allows data exchange between wikis and related
> tools. Different from other approaches, we also tackle the problem of
> page content and annotations. The linking from formal annotations to
> parts of a structured text is analysed and described.
> 
> 
> Basically,   a   reasonable   XHTML   subset  is  proposed,  to  ease
> implementation.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
>   Max Völkel
> --
> Dipl.-Inform. Max Völkel, Universität Karlsruhe / FZI
>             nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org
> voelkel at fzi.de   +49 721 9654-854   www.xam.de
> 
> *Second* Workshop on Semantic Wikis: http://semwiki.org/wibke2006
> 
> 
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