[wiki-standards] Re: wiki-standards Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8

[Chuck Smith]

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mike Haseler <mike at lenzie.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Creole can go much further, and so we developed a fair amount of XML
>> technology around it, to improve portability, storage, independence. First
>> to be named is an XML-based representation of Creole as well as XSLT scripts
>> to convert the XML to Creole and vice versa (plus code). You can reach it
>> from the Creole wiki or directly here:
>>
>> http://www.riehle.org/wiki-creole/
>>
> Dirk,
>
> I was going to keep quiet today because I've said enough and as Janne quite
> rightly points out I'm a "here to today gone tomorrow grumbler".
>
> However, I can't help giving praise where it is due (which is why I end up
> engaged in trench warfare with so many different blog/wiki syntaxes).
>
> You have done a great job creating the EBNF grammar and this is key to
> creating a specification. Indeed, I really do think anyone who has
> contributed toward Creole project should be thanked for their effort (even
> if it looks to me like their effort is going to go to waste) because
> perhaps, with a massive change of attitude, it could be the first step
> toward a specification.
>
> And as Janne quite rightly said, my said group is my family, and when the
> first thing they want is Glarey red text, I realised that not only is Creole
> abysmally inadequate, but even my much fuller featured "wish list"
> implementation doesn't have the scope to satisfy the full horror of an 9
> year old's idea of a perfect wiki-page!
>
> And I'm beginning to realise my goal is simply unachievable given the
> current lack of any suitable wiki standard.
>
> Mike

Hi Mike,

Our plan was that Creole Additions would be used for things such as
text color that not every wiki needs, but some wikis want.  The idea
was that we would first standardize the elements that everyone needs
and then the optional elements we would put in Additions.  Does this
address that issue?

We really did work hard to make this spec, and yes I'll admit it's
quite lax, but we're open to criticism.  :)  I'm thinking we should
mention Dirk's grammar on WikiCreole.org more prominently.

Peace,
Chuck